Le Monde-ul de ieri publica un articol care s-ar vrea “bomba”, privind o noua dezvaluire WikiLeaks, de data aceasta venita via Ambasada SUA de la Chisinau, din care aflam cum in toamna anului trecut Volodea Voronin i-ar fi oferit lui Marian Lupu o mita de 10 milioane de euro pentru a-l intoarce pe “liderul democrat” la sanul sau de comunist. Lipsita de componenta analizei, informatia face valuri deja, in media romanesti si internationale. Cum sa explici insa unor necunoscatori ca sunt “victime colaterale” ale unei operatiuni perfecte? Poate amintind ca rusii sunt cei care au inventat conceptul si chiar cuvantul DEZINFORMARE!
Din nota “secreta” a Ambasadei SUA aflam cum “insusi Lupu” i-ar fi relatat aceasta situatie “infioratoare” ambasadorului american. Iar Voronin, cand a fost intrebat despre poveste, “nu ar fi negat”. Ba chiar ar fi dat de inteles ca Lupu este in slujba unor servicii secrete straine, poate chiar a celor romanesti! Sa mori de ras, nu alta!
Desigur, este interesant ca – ce coincidenta – nota apare chiar acum, cand alegerea presedintelui de la Chisinau depinde (iarasi) de doar doua voturi in Parlament (respectiv 61, iar asa zisa alianta cu PD-ul lui Lupu, PL-ul lui Ghimpu si PLDM-ul lui Filat are doar 59 din totalul de 101). Dar, in realitate, situatia este mult mai simpla: Lupu este pupilul lui Voronin si al serviciilor de informatii rusesti (asa cum este si Filat). Practic vorbim de capra Filat, varza Voronin si Lupu. Care chipurile n-ar incapea in aceeasi barca dar toate apartin ciobanului de Putin. Deci, despre ce “mita” vorbim? Discutia este mult mai clara, acolo: faci ce ti se ordona sau mori.
Asa-zisul PD al “euro-comunistului” Lupu este doar o alta matrioska, colorata evropeneste, care, iata, decide azi fundamental cum va arata viitorul Republicii Moldova. Adica exact ce si-au propus rusii. De fapt, pe scurt, realitatea e mult mai simpla (asta poate ca sa inteleaga si amatorii lui Ungureanu, care ar trebui sa raspunda pentru “succesul” de 9% la atatea milioane aruncate): in orice directie ar lua-o Moldova este directia pe care o va dori Rusia. Fie ca merge spre UE, si actioneaza ca cal troian, fie ca ramane in CSI. Din aceasta perspectiva, “dezvaluirea” WikiLeaks, care reda naivitatea si amatorismul emisarilor americani in spatiul de influenta rusesc, transformati in colportori de duzina, foloseste iata, azi, ca o incununare a dezinformarii, pentru a-i intari pozitia lui Lupu in negocierile din aceste zile, aratand cum el nu a cedat “diavolului rosu” de Voronin. Dar de cel brun nu ne zice nimic? Ca doar l-a vizitat la Moscova, pentru “debriefing”, dupa cum aminteste Unimedia:
“Din cele relatate ambasadorului american, Lupu a plecat la 12 august la Moscova, tranzitând în secret Budapesta, unde a fost supus unei testări psihologice, într-o cameră de hotel. Liderul PD a relatat că a fost supus unui interviu de două ore, fiind întrebat de poziția sa față de imunitatea lui Voronin, neutralitatea Moldovei și școlile rusofone din Moldova. Potrivit documentelor și spuselor ambasadorului american, Lupu s-ar fi întâlnit în Frankfurt la 5 septembrie 2009 cu un reprezentant al președintelui rus, Dmitri Medvedev. Lupu a declarat că rușii sunt îngrijorați că Ghimpu ar deveni președinte al Parlamentului și președinte interimar și au dat de înțeles că așteaptă alegerile repetate din 2010.”
Partea amuzanta acum urmeaza (aviz tot “profesionistilor”): “Totodată, liderul democrat le-a spus rușilor că nu trebuie să-și facă griji în privința “unionismului” lui Ghimpu. Lupu le-a spus că va avea grijă de poziția publică a liderului PL, pentru ca acesta să nu facă declarații “nepotrivite”.”
In nota se mai aminteste ca la intalnirea cu “tentativa de mita”, comunistul Voronin i-ar fi propus “democratului” sau formarea unei coalitii de centru-stanga, avandu-l ca presedinte pe Marian Lupu, lui Voronin urmand sa-i revina sefia Parlamentului. Un alt efect, asa zis pozitiv, al dezvaluirii WikiLeaks, este ca aceasta varianta cade acum, automat, in cazul negocierilor care se poarta chiar zilele acestea. Dar Lupu ramane in barca…
Iata “informarea” “originala”:
Tuesday, 08 September 2009, 15:27
S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 CHISINAU 000694
SIPDIS
STATE FOR EUR/UMB
EO 12958 DECL: 09/04/2019
TAGS PGOV, PREL, KDEM, EAID, PINR, RS“>RS, MD
SUBJECT: VORONIN OFFERED LUPU A HUGE BRIBE IN
ATTEMPT TO SPLIT NON-COMMUNIST ALLIANCE
Classified by: Ambassador Asif J. Chaudhry for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)
REFS: (A) Chisinau 685;
1. (S) Summary: Presidential hopeful Marian Lupu (strictly protect) told the Ambassador about a private meeting on September 7 in which Acting President Voronin had offered him USD ten million dollars to form a “Left-Center” coalition government with Voronin as Speaker, Lupu as President, and Greceanii as Prime Minister. Lupu had refused, and said he was shocked the President thought he could be purchased that way. Lupu also related how he met in Frankfurt on September 5 with a representative of Russian President Medvedev. Lupu said the Russians were concerned about having Parliament Speaker Ghimpu as Acting President, and seemed to expect early repeat elections in Moldova in 2010. Lupu also said he is concerned that both Filat and Ghimpu will hold key positions, and he may be left with nothing, and so wants to ensure important government posts for members of his party. Lupu said that the Alliance has not yet worked out their plans for a government slate, and did not seem to be aware of the upcoming timeline for the current GOM to be dissolved on September 14. End Summary.
Voronin Offers Massive Bribe for Government Deal
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2. (S) In a September 8 meeting with the Ambassador, Presidential hopeful Marian Lupu said that he had been invited September 7 to a private meeting at President Voronin’s dacha at Condrita. In this one-on-one session, the Acting President had repeated his earlier proposal (Ref A) for forming a government with Voronin as Speaker, Lupu as President, and (current Prime Minister) Greceanii as PM. Lupu rejected the proposal, repeating his earlier explanation that this scenario would be bad for his party. Lupu said Voronin asked whether others, such as the American Ambassador, were putting pressure on him not to compromise — Lupu said he had denied that this was the case.
3. (S) According to Lupu, Voronin then suggested that he understood Lupu had “many obligations,” and openly offered a sum of USD five million if Lupu would agree to join the Communists. Lupu said he stated that he was not interested. According to Lupu, Voronin then doubled the offer to USD ten million, which he also turned down.
4. (S) Lupu then turned the tables on Voronin, and proposed guaranteed immunity from prosecution for Voronin and his family in return for the PCRM providing the required eight votes for his election as the opposition coalition candidate for President. Voronin again suggested that Lupu should think about his proposal, but Lupu said he had no choice now but to stay on his chosen path, and suggested Voronin think about his proposal. Lupu told the Ambassador that he had whispered this story to his wife, and that the two had been shocked that Voronin would think that Lupu could be purchased that way.
Lupu Met Russian Representative in Frankfurt
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5. (S) Lupu also described for Ambassador a secret trip he had taken on September 5 to Frankfurt to meet with a representative of President Medvedev’s Administration. Most of the meeting focused on Russia’s serious concerns about Ghimpu’s pro- Romanian orientation. Lupu said he had given assurances, telling the Russians not to worry about Ghimpu. The Russian had mentioned the upcoming CIS Heads of State meeting (October 9 in Chisinau) and his concern that Ghimpu, who presumably would represent Moldova (in his capacity as acting President), would “say something embarrassing.” Lupu had given assurances that he would personally work with Ghimpu on his public statement and ensure that he not say anything inappropriate. Lupu also told the Ambassador that he would tell Ghimpu that he
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(Ghimpu) needed to be careful in what he said.
6. (S) Lupu said that during his 45-minute conversation with Medvedev’s representative, the Russian had several times mentioned the possibility of early elections in 2010. Lupu presumed that the Russians were getting this notion from Voronin, and took it as a sign that the Communists were likely planning a strategy of forcing early elections.
Lupu Wants Role for His Party in New Government
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7. (C) Lupu told the Ambassador that he was concerned about the current division of power within the Alliance. He noted that Ghimpu holds the Speaker’s job, and would nominate Filat as Prime Minister. If the Parliament failed to elect a President, Lupu said, he would be left with nothing. Lupu thus felt it necessary to secure a visible role for his party in the new government.
8. (C) According to Lupu, not only has the Alliance not yet agreed on the division of posts in their coming government, they have not even agreed yet on the principles for dividing the power. One formula Lupu suggested was the fair distribution of the 16 Minister positions among the four parties, according to the principle of equality, i.e. 4-4-4-4. On the other hand, Filat had earlier proposed that the distribution should be by parliamentary strength, along the lines of 6-4-4-2. Lupu noted that a reported proposal that Filat would compromise by offering one position to Urechean, for a 5-4-4-3 distribution was potentially more interesting, and said he would discuss this with Urechean and Ghimpu.
9. (C) An alternate proposal Lupu suggested for dividing power was to group the ministries, i.e. all law enforcement, all social/health, etc., and then divide these up among the parties according to the principle of which party had the best person for the position. Lupu said that he wanted the position of Minister of Economy for Valeriu Lazar. He said that he knew that Filat wanted the position of Minister of Foreign Affairs for Iurie Leanca. Lupu said he had no problem with Filat’s proposal, and hoped Filat would accept his proposal.
10. (C) In response to the Ambassador’s question about when the Alliance would resolve the power- sharing formula, Lupu suggested that they would talk about it this week. Lupu said that he and his coalition partners would be working as soon as possible to put together their proposals to have the list ready before Greceanii’s government stepped down together with President Voronin on September 14, as is currently anticipated.
Comment
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11. (S) Though we have often heard stories of bribery and influence peddling within the GOM, Lupu’s claim that Voronin offered him USD ten million to cut a power-sharing deal is the most brazen tale to date. It is possible Voronin did not believe Lupu would take the bribe, but had to be able to go back to his party saying that he had tried everything. At this point, Lupu, while insisting on his loyalty to the Alliance, is clearly not feeling very confident about the unfolding political drama. Lupu fears that the Communists will not vote for him, and that Moldova is on the road to repeat elections. He may be right. Or on the other hand, politics within the Party of Communists may change drastically after Voronin steps down as President. This could possibly encourage the moderate wing within the PCRM that supports giving the votes to Lupu (at least that is the hope being expressed by several opposition MPs).
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“…the informant for Wikileaks, 22-year old intelligence analyst Bradley Manning, has expressed that he hoped the fallout from the Wikileaks would ultimately lead to anarchy:
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Tare!
D.le Roncea,personal ati cautat acest act pe site-ul wikileaks ?De cand a aparut povestea asta tot o caut pe site-ul lor si nu gasesc nimic,in legatura cu ambasada SUA de la Chisinau pe site-ul gasesc doar asta
https://wikileaks.org/origin/49_0.html
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si nimic despre Lupu,Voronin.
L-au livrat direct presei. Probabil ca site-ul e bramburit de schimbarea de pe amazon…
Oricum asta nu inseamna ca este real. Parerea mea: documentul a fost manipulat de Soros, eternul intrus otravit in afacerile noastre nationale!
Merci.In legatura cu Soros aveti dreptate,vad ca din ce in ce e tot mai activ pe la noi,la Chisinau,am in vedere articolul asta
https://unimedia.md/?mod=news&id=26507 , Mişcarea Naţională Democrată din Republica Moldova una din organizatiile care au cerut interzicerea manifestarilor care urmau să fie organizate la Chişinău pe 1 decembrie, de Ziua României, au relatii de colaborare cu Garda Secuiasca , vedeti pe site-ul lor https://www.nationaldemocrat.org/
Tare! Multumesc mult! Sa tinem legatura!
Guardian ofera o harta: https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-wikileaks
@alex
Si care este, totusi, legatura lor cu Soros?
Banii,fondul Soros finanteaza Garda Voievod ,organizatie de tip scout .
Stati pana acum ascundea si nega ca are vreo legatura cu declaratiile facute de Nicolaie Pascaru,acum vad ca pe blogul lor voievod.org sta clipul cu apelul facut de ei.
Foarte interesant. Exista vreun link pe undeva privind aceasta finantare? Va multumesc anticipat!
Caut,cum gasesc il pun pe site.
Dar pana atunci ce pareri aveti despre Iurie Rosca si legaturile lui cu acest club,cu Nicolaie Pascaru ?
Dupa cum vad pe site-ul lor,Rosca e membru de onoare 🙂 ,https://www.voievod.org/lan/ro/recunoastere/3.htm?cat=4 ,
inclusiv a primit si „Inima de aur”din partea Fundaţiei Creştine pentru democraţie , https://nicolaepascaru.com/bio sau https://www.flux.md/editii/2008193/articole/5319/
Imi fac cruce, ce sa fac… Si totusi, Voievod nu-i MND…
:))) Interesanta e lista de prieteni are pe facebook Viorel Furtuna,presedintele Miscarii National Democrate ,printre care suntPPCD-istii – Iurie Rosca,Cesar Salohor,Mihai Busila ,Radu Busila, Mihail Mihai ,Octavian Racu, Sergiu Praporscic,Stefan Secareanu,Victor Ciobanu,
Mark Tkachuk, Igor Dodon,Grigore Petrenco,Inna Supac ,feciorasul lui Lucinscii ,Alexandru Tanase (!) ,Oleg Cristal,Valeriu Pasat,Valeriu Lazar,Valeriu Ghilețchi,Victor Gurau ,Vitalia Pavlicenco, dar si multi maghiari ,printre care si extremisti, ca Kelemen Csaba ,Kiss Imre,Lukacs Attila,László Kállai,Miklós Csaba,Nóra Gergely,
vedeti intrega lista aici https://ro-ro.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001012227033
Dupa cum vedeti PPCD-istii ocupa primul lor in lista lui,si nu cred ca e intamplator.
Se mai intampla. Si eu am adaugat fara sa stiu exact cine sunt unii sau altii. Sper ca acelasi a fost si cazul lor. CU Soros, ati gasit ceva?
Alex esti un idiot.
:)))) Despre lista de prieteni a lui Viorel. Tu chiar esti timpit, prietenii pe facebook nu inseamna prieten in sensul adevarat a cuvintului ci o persoana cui ii poti baga informatiile tale. Toti faca asta, Viorel nu face exceptie.